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	<title>Comments on: Bloggers as public intellectuals and writing about them in a research report</title>
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	<description>Lilia Efimova on personal productivity in knowledge-intensive environments, weblog research, knowledge management, PhD, serendipity and lack of work-life balance...</description>
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		<title>By: Dux</title>
		<link>http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/09/03/bloggers-as-public-intellectuals-and-writing-about-them-in-a-research-report/comment-page-1/#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>Dux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the concept that ideas are formed from a mutual intellectual exchange and I guess that is also my aim. Just to get ideas and out there and thought about. Sometimes I have ideas and wonder has anyone else thought of this or why issues haven&#039;t been addressed? I like researching the topics of my blog to discover and promote intellectual exchange. I would like to know the influence of blogs from concept to reality but perhaps it is to premature to study this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept that ideas are formed from a mutual intellectual exchange and I guess that is also my aim. Just to get ideas and out there and thought about. Sometimes I have ideas and wonder has anyone else thought of this or why issues haven&#8217;t been addressed? I like researching the topics of my blog to discover and promote intellectual exchange. I would like to know the influence of blogs from concept to reality but perhaps it is to premature to study this.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Dragt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Dragt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand this correctly, you find it disturbing, that writing about qualitative research creates strange effects of dissection when you use different names when citing the same respondent. This I think has nothing to do with science, but with language use. Texts that use the same name over and over again, become boring and at a certain moment even laughable.

So that is something you can only solve if you write some kind of legend, in which you explain that certain words used to assign text to a respondent, can make it unclear that the words were uttered by the same person. Or if you can use different fonts, and are willing to keep track of which respondent belongs to which font, you could solve your problem that way.

However I would expect that most readers do not mind you figuratively dissect your respondents. As the ideas in your report are more important than the sources they come from.

If people always wanted to know exactly who said what, they would have developed that ability long ago, when they first started talking. However most people only want to know the who and what in certain situations, depending on their personal experiences. So if you can appoint an idea to someone, you should. But if you create a new idea based on the ideas of someone else, you only quote the original idea if it is necessary to understand your idea. At a certain moment quoting and citing becomes useless, if you present ideas that are new and different from what others know and think.

It probably would have been impossible for Einstein to write down his ideas about the relativity theory, if he would have had to quote and cite everybody, that might have had some kind of influence on his ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand this correctly, you find it disturbing, that writing about qualitative research creates strange effects of dissection when you use different names when citing the same respondent. This I think has nothing to do with science, but with language use. Texts that use the same name over and over again, become boring and at a certain moment even laughable.</p>
<p>So that is something you can only solve if you write some kind of legend, in which you explain that certain words used to assign text to a respondent, can make it unclear that the words were uttered by the same person. Or if you can use different fonts, and are willing to keep track of which respondent belongs to which font, you could solve your problem that way.</p>
<p>However I would expect that most readers do not mind you figuratively dissect your respondents. As the ideas in your report are more important than the sources they come from.</p>
<p>If people always wanted to know exactly who said what, they would have developed that ability long ago, when they first started talking. However most people only want to know the who and what in certain situations, depending on their personal experiences. So if you can appoint an idea to someone, you should. But if you create a new idea based on the ideas of someone else, you only quote the original idea if it is necessary to understand your idea. At a certain moment quoting and citing becomes useless, if you present ideas that are new and different from what others know and think.</p>
<p>It probably would have been impossible for Einstein to write down his ideas about the relativity theory, if he would have had to quote and cite everybody, that might have had some kind of influence on his ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathemagenic &#187; &#8216;Pouring the credit&#8217; and why it&#8217;s still important</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathemagenic &#187; &#8216;Pouring the credit&#8217; and why it&#8217;s still important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that keeps me from writing, but now I have something better - a couple of comments my post on bloggers as public intellectuals to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that keeps me from writing, but now I have something better &#8211; a couple of comments my post on bloggers as public intellectuals to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Knowledge Jolt with Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knowledge Jolt with Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Public intellectuals and the source of ideas...&lt;/strong&gt;

I haven&#039;t linked to Lilia Efimova in a while, but she continues to write about her PhD process and say things that I think have to do with the larger questions of how people work together (one element being knowledge management)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Public intellectuals and the source of ideas&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t linked to Lilia Efimova in a while, but she continues to write about her PhD process and say things that I think have to do with the larger questions of how people work together (one element being knowledge management)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilia Efimova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilia Efimova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you may want to check a very interesting discussion on using 1st person language in academic writing and its relation to disciplinary practices in Kamler, B. &amp; Thomson, P. (2006). Helping doctoral students write: pedagogies for supervision. The book is another one on my &quot;to blog&quot; list and worth reading for any academic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you may want to check a very interesting discussion on using 1st person language in academic writing and its relation to disciplinary practices in Kamler, B. &amp; Thomson, P. (2006). Helping doctoral students write: pedagogies for supervision. The book is another one on my &#8220;to blog&#8221; list and worth reading for any academic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something in your post reminded me of what I have said to students - often in response to the question about the use of 1st person language - that when doing academic writing you write from within the discipline.  It is not your writing, hence the conventions of academic writing.

Your post takes this deeper - traditionally the role of the academic journal has been as gatekeeper of knowledge within the discipline - as an academic I work on the information I know is reliable becuase of the source - and of course referencing makes that explicit.  What I absorb into my thoughts is controlled as part of the discipline.

What your post raises therefore is the deeper question about the role of the internet - not only does it make it easier for students to find and use information from outside the discipline - the wikipedia problem, but in knowledge generation we need a new way of controlling our own inputs to maintain some disciplinary boundaries around what we absorb into the development of our disciplines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something in your post reminded me of what I have said to students &#8211; often in response to the question about the use of 1st person language &#8211; that when doing academic writing you write from within the discipline.  It is not your writing, hence the conventions of academic writing.</p>
<p>Your post takes this deeper &#8211; traditionally the role of the academic journal has been as gatekeeper of knowledge within the discipline &#8211; as an academic I work on the information I know is reliable becuase of the source &#8211; and of course referencing makes that explicit.  What I absorb into my thoughts is controlled as part of the discipline.</p>
<p>What your post raises therefore is the deeper question about the role of the internet &#8211; not only does it make it easier for students to find and use information from outside the discipline &#8211; the wikipedia problem, but in knowledge generation we need a new way of controlling our own inputs to maintain some disciplinary boundaries around what we absorb into the development of our disciplines.</p>
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