Comments on: If most of the things I want to say in my PhD are already in my weblog, what’s the added value of the dissertation? http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/ Lilia Efimova on personal productivity in knowledge-intensive environments, weblog research, knowledge management, PhD, serendipity and lack of work-life balance... Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:17:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: John Tropea http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-13739 John Tropea Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:30:46 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-13739 Sorry I forgot to add some links I forget to you have chapter about context in blogs http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2008/08/02/the-context-of-blogs/ Here's an excerpt from the black swan http://johntropea.tumblr.com/post/47312505/the-black-swan-nassim-taleb-p13 “The journal was purportedly written without…knowing what was going to happen next, when the information available…was not corrupted by the subsequent outcomes.” “While we have a highly unstable memory, a diary provides indelible facts recorded more or less immediately; it thus allows the fixation of an unrevised perception and enables us to later study events in their own context. Again, it is the purported method of description of the event, not its execution, that was important.” And something from Matt Hodgson http://www.theappgap.com/where-have-all-the-intranets-gone-long-time-passing.html “If we look back to the rich oral history of many of our cultures, blogging is a reflection of the need to story-tell, carrying with it important information not only on the what – the facts like the reports we typically store in our recordkeeping systems – but also the meaning behind the why and how.” Sorry I forgot to add some links

I forget to you have chapter about context in blogs
http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2008/08/02/the-context-of-blogs/

Here’s an excerpt from the black swan
http://johntropea.tumblr.com/post/47312505/the-black-swan-nassim-taleb-p13

“The journal was purportedly written without…knowing what was going to happen next, when the information available…was not corrupted by the subsequent outcomes.” “While we have a highly unstable memory, a diary provides indelible facts recorded more or less immediately; it thus allows the fixation of an unrevised perception and enables us to later study events in their own context. Again, it is the purported method of description of the event, not its execution, that was important.”

And something from Matt Hodgson
http://www.theappgap.com/where-have-all-the-intranets-gone-long-time-passing.html

“If we look back to the rich oral history of many of our cultures, blogging is a reflection of the need to story-tell, carrying with it important information not only on the what – the facts like the reports we typically store in our recordkeeping systems – but also the meaning behind the why and how.”

]]> By: John Tropea http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-13738 John Tropea Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:23:36 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-13738 I like this classic example of blogging - where Chuck Hollis has blogged about his experience introducing social media into his organisation. Then he connected all his blog posts and wrote a white paper. He's taken his raw fragments and incorporated them into a higher purpose (codification) Blog posts can be raw, sometimes having no agenda (aim to achieve) accept sharing an experience. You just can't do this in a white paper, there needs to be an outcome you are driving at, therefore what you are saying may become sanitised, or driven by an outcome/focus. The white paper is great, but if you want to really learn the blog posts are for deeper reading (more personal, explanatory, experiential (anecdotes), triggers things in you...get to know an author...comments/feedback. More chance of knowledge sharing/transfer as you know them more. For me this is the real difference between KM1 and KM2, in that now we can do proper knowledge sharing like we do in real life by probing, clarifying, assimilating...and our blog posts are more like informal rich conversations (as it happens) where you can absorb more holistically, rather than seeking a formal document in a database and calling that "knowledge sharing/transfer" http://chucksblog.emc.com/a_journey_in_social_media/2008/12/giving-back-and-a-request-for-help.html I like this classic example of blogging – where Chuck Hollis has blogged about his experience introducing social media into his organisation. Then he connected all his blog posts and wrote a white paper.

He’s taken his raw fragments and incorporated them into a higher purpose (codification)

Blog posts can be raw, sometimes having no agenda (aim to achieve) accept sharing an experience. You just can’t do this in a white paper, there needs to be an outcome you are driving at, therefore what you are saying may become sanitised, or driven by an outcome/focus.

The white paper is great, but if you want to really learn the blog posts are for deeper reading (more personal, explanatory, experiential (anecdotes), triggers things in you…get to know an author…comments/feedback. More chance of knowledge sharing/transfer as you know them more.

For me this is the real difference between KM1 and KM2, in that now we can do proper knowledge sharing like we do in real life by probing, clarifying, assimilating…and our blog posts are more like informal rich conversations (as it happens) where you can absorb more holistically, rather than seeking a formal document in a database and calling that “knowledge sharing/transfer”

http://chucksblog.emc.com/a_journey_in_social_media/2008/12/giving-back-and-a-request-for-help.html

]]> By: Library clips :: Conversations, Connections and Context :: July :: 2008 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-786 Library clips :: Conversations, Connections and Context :: July :: 2008 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:04:15 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-786 [...] Mathemagenic has a great post on not so much gardening, but on her thoughts on writing her dissertation when it’s all there in her blog. If we one day read her dissertation, and then read her blog posts, which do you think we would be able to get more know-how from. I think the blog posts, as they are more initimate like conversations, but the corollary is that perhaps her dissertation would give us an overiew to be able to tie all these blog posts and see the big picture. [...] [...] Mathemagenic has a great post on not so much gardening, but on her thoughts on writing her dissertation when it’s all there in her blog. If we one day read her dissertation, and then read her blog posts, which do you think we would be able to get more know-how from. I think the blog posts, as they are more initimate like conversations, but the corollary is that perhaps her dissertation would give us an overiew to be able to tie all these blog posts and see the big picture. [...]

]]> By: ismael http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-173 ismael Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:44:49 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-173 a-ha, I guess I hadn't caught what you really meant. Now, yes, I couldn't agree more :) a-ha, I guess I hadn’t caught what you really meant.

Now, yes, I couldn’t agree more :)

]]> By: Lilia Efimova http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Lilia Efimova Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:55:55 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-169 For me too PhD is about a process. The only thing that for someone "spoiled" by the opportunities for interactivity that social media provides it is not that obvious that the dissertation in a traditional format is a necessary element of the process. And, the fact that doing a PhD pushes me into following the process as "it should be" does not mean that it's an objectively good one :) For me too PhD is about a process. The only thing that for someone “spoiled” by the opportunities for interactivity that social media provides it is not that obvious that the dissertation in a traditional format is a necessary element of the process.

And, the fact that doing a PhD pushes me into following the process as “it should be” does not mean that it’s an objectively good one :)

]]> By: ismael http://blog.mathemagenic.com/2008/07/02/if-most-of-the-things-i-want-to-say-in-my-phd-are-already-in-my-weblog-whats-the-added-value-of-the-dissertation/comment-page-1/#comment-168 ismael Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:23:14 +0000 http://blog.mathemagenic.com/?p=1514#comment-168 I look at it just the other way round: I think of the PhD as a process, not as a result or an output. Hence, the dissertation is just a part of the process, as the blog is (and collecting the bibliography and doing the readings, etc.). So, it's not dissertation _or_ blog, but just parts of the same thing. I look at it just the other way round: I think of the PhD as a process, not as a result or an output. Hence, the dissertation is just a part of the process, as the blog is (and collecting the bibliography and doing the readings, etc.). So, it’s not dissertation _or_ blog, but just parts of the same thing.

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